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BetterthanKaka 8:54 Thu Aug 6
Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

England (probable) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Adam Lyth, 3 Ian Bell, 4 Joe Root, 5 Jonny Bairstow, 6 Ben Stokes, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Moeen Ali, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 Mark Wood, 11 Steven Finn

Such has been the weakness of Australia's middle order that a switch to six specialist batsmen, with Shaun Marsh replacing his brother Mitchell, is one option that could be considered. Alternatively, he could replace Adam Voges, enabling Western Australia's brothers to team up in Tests for only the second time.

Australia (probable) 1 David Warner, 2 Chris Rogers, 3 Steven Smith, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 Shaun Marsh, 6 Mitchell Marsh, 7 Peter Nevill (wk), 8 Mitchell Johnson, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Josh Hazlewood, 11 Nathan Lyon

Pitch and conditions
Alastair Cook has predicted "another Edgbaston" and if so it will continue the transformation from the attritional pitches of recent vintage. Trent Bridge dare not risk a boring surface, having been marked "poor" a year ago by the ICC for a slow, low surface for a Test against India in which only 29 wickets fell. The weather is also unsettled enough to fill both bowling attacks with optimism.

Sven Roeder 11:27 Wed Aug 12
Re: Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

Good that these players from outside the Ashes squad are in India with the A team so are getting some warm up games.

Playing S Africa A at the moment
Aust A 272
Wade 130 off 106 balls with 7 sixes
S Africa A 54/3 (15 overs)
Coulter-Nile 2 wickets for 3 from 4 overs

Sven Roeder 11:23 Wed Aug 12
Re: Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

That's right Mr Burns.
Faulkner suspended due to his DRINK DRIVING and Finch seems to have had all sorts of injuries.
Will be interested to see Pattinson, Starc, Cummins & Coulter-Nile with Johnson and Hazlewood rested.

stewie griffin 11:22 Wed Aug 12
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Will be nice to welcome PATT0 back

Sven Roeder 11:19 Wed Aug 12
Re: Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

Lyon is the leading off spinning Test wicket taker of all time for Australia.
Agar is 21 and learning the game.
He took 5 wickets for Australia A against India the other day but will have to do a lot more to come into contention along with the leg spinners Cameron Boyce and James Muirhead.

Presume one of them will be in the squad for the October Tests in Bangladesh though.

I think for now they see Agar as the new Xavier Doherty in ODI cricket. Except he can bat and is great in the field.

stewie griffin 11:18 Wed Aug 12
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Nathan CouLOLter-NiLOL

Mr. Burns 11:16 Wed Aug 12
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Sven,

Faulkner suspended and Finchy injured?

Mr Polite 11:14 Wed Aug 12
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two at Old Trafford?

Is that because they didn't get a Test?

joey5000 11:11 Wed Aug 12
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How come Agar isn't in the test squad, Sven?

Sven Roeder 11:04 Wed Aug 12
Re: Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

Australia's ODI squad for England series

Steven Smith (capt), Ashton Agar, George Bailey, Joe Burns, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Pat Cummins, Glenn Maxwell, Mitchell Marsh, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade (wk), Shane Watson, David Warner

In: Ashton Agar, Joe Burns, Nathan Coulter-Nile, James Pattinson, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade

Out: Michael Clarke, Xavier Doherty, James Faulkner, Aaron Finch, Brad Haddin, Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Johnson

Thu Aug 27 (50 ovs) 10:45 local (09:45 GMT)
ODI - Ireland v Australia
Civil Service Cricket Club, Stormont, Belfast

Mon Aug 31 (20 ovs) 15:00 local (14:00 GMT)
Only T20I - England v Australia
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Thu Sep 3 (50 ovs) 14:00 local (13:00 GMT)
1st ODI - England v Australia
The Rose Bowl, Southampton

Sat Sep 5 (50 ovs) 10:30 local (09:30 GMT)
2nd ODI - England v Australia
Lord's, London

Tue Sep 8 (50 ovs) 14:00 local (13:00 GMT)
3rd ODI - England v Australia
Old Trafford, Manchester

Fri Sep 11 (50 ovs) 10:30 local (09:30 GMT)
4th ODI - England v Australia
Headingley, Leeds

Sun Sep 13 (50 ovs) 10:30 local (09:30 GMT)
5th ODI - England v Australia
Old Trafford, Manchester

Reality Cheques 2:11 Tue Aug 11
Re: Official Thread for the 4th Ashes Test - ENGLAND v Australia, Trent Bridge

Where's the official Woman's Ashes test updates then ?

Brussels Sprout 1:54 Sun Aug 9
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Far Cough 12:27 Sun Aug 9

The Aussie side in 2006 was remarkably similar to the one in 2005. Indeed, it was probably the fact they'd lost the previous series that made Warne, McGrath, Langer, Martyn carry on 18 months more. So, not sure about your wholesale changes argument.

Jonah Lomas 1:06 Sun Aug 9
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Sven Roeder 12:03 Sun Aug 9

Just here.

So, a 4th Rugby Championship in 20 years (NZ have 13 titles), the last being 2011....I'm not one for omens, but.........

stewie griffin 12:51 Sun Aug 9
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They've chopped Trent bridge and Cardiff sven son.

Would hope by then that we aren't such a conditions based side, but it's still a ludicrous decision

Far Cough 12:34 Sun Aug 9
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Eerie, Like I said, more a case of them being utter shit than us being unbeatable, I do think think we have a good core of bowlers though, that and Joe Root has been a revelation

Sven Roeder 12:32 Sun Aug 9
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What are the 5 for 2019?
Lords & Oval so I guess TB or Edgbaston are missing out?
Less SCARED EYES maybe
Must be cracking down on RELENTLESS BULLYING

Eerie Descent 12:30 Sun Aug 9
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We're slapping the Aussies 3-1 with a game to play, Cough, if you can't get carried away now, what chance have you got?

Dr Matt 12:29 Sun Aug 9
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Team Down Under will be along the lines of:

Cook(c)
Lees
Root
Bell
Hain
Bairstow(wk)
Stokes
Woakes
Broad
Finn
Crane

Ali, Buttler, Leaning/Taylor, Anderson (or Wood/Harris if Anderson has retired) and C.Overton in the squad.

All subject to injury, health and fitness. Biggest prospects are Dunn and J.Overton who can obviously crank it up to 90mph+ and will immediately be considered if they stay fit.

Far Cough 12:27 Sun Aug 9
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Let's not get carried away here, England weren't THAT good, more the case of Australia being very bad, oh and they have a habit of bouncing back from a bad series in the sense that they have nearly always been not afraid to make wholesale changes

stewie griffin 12:24 Sun Aug 9
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Might stand half a chance in 2019, sven son, given that the idiots have given tests to old Trafford and headingley

Eerie Descent 12:22 Sun Aug 9
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Ali/Hales
Cook
Root
Taylor/Vince
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Rashid/Riley/CRANE
Broad
Finn
Anderson/Wood

Sven Roeder 12:19 Sun Aug 9
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Think some people got carried away following an innocent comment by Bayliss but every team that wins a series usually has talk of dominating into the next millennium.
From Australias point of view the only positive is that we are now out of this period of back to back series and its late 2017 before the next one. A period where they need to urgently find batsmen.
I agree with Ponting , I don't think its quite as bad as made out but a few need to seize the chance.

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